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Is Georgia's NATO dream coming true?
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MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti political commentator Andrei Fedyashin) - This Monday saw the start of serious diplomatic discussion of all recent Caucasian troubles and entailed long bargaining and consultations, and heavy pressure on Russia.
NATO and the United States are launching talks on the Caucasus. The European Union (EU) has already held them.
As always, the UN will hold the longest discussions of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict. In the meantime, NATO foreign ministers will hold an emergency meeting on Tuesday, August 19, at Washington's request. Their task is to decide what to do about Russia and how to approach it.
Desperate to leave some meaningful legacy, George W. Bush has one aim - to cut the Russia of Putin and Medvedev to size for crushing small Georgia. Georgia's defense is the defense of a minor country and of democracy in general the world over. This is the recent refrain of many U.S. songs.
Before Bush, some U.S. politicians have tried to push on the allies another refrain in the vein of JFK's "Ich bin ein Berliner," adjusted for today "We are now Georgians." But it did not work. The Washington Post is critical of Bush and even more so of Russia, but it still wrote: "Are we all Georgians now? Not too fast."
In the past few years, France and Germany have been considered counterweighs to the White House's frequently unbalanced position toward Moscow, but on the eve of the NATO consultations, they lashed out at Russia.
Right after her visit to Tbilisi to meet with Mikheil Saakashvili, German Chancellor Angela Merkel announced, on August 17, her support for Georgia's NATO entry.
In a letter to Le Monde on August 18, French President Nicolas Sarkozy demanded that Moscow immediately start troop withdrawals from Georgia consistent with the Medvedev-Sarkozy principles, or he would be forced to call an emergency session of the European Council. His statement sounded almost like an ultimatum.
Dmitry Medvedev announced that troop withdrawal would begin August 18 and informed Sarkozy about it the day before in a telephone conversation. The letter in Le Monde was published post factum. It was bound to appear because right-wing activists in France, the United States, and their new soul mates in the ex-Eastern bloc from NATO and the EU showered Sarkozy with criticism for his trip to Moscow and his elaboration of the six principles of Caucasian settlement. They accused him of losing his bearings. The published letter was designed to show that he was still part of the team.
In Merkel's case, everything proved to be simpler than it first seemed. German journalists were also perplexed by her support of Georgia's NATO entry. She said that "Georgia will become a NATO member if it wants to, and it does." Journalists asked her when she had changed her position. At the April NATO summit in Berlin, she seemed to oppose membership. Merkel explained that she never opposed Georgia's NATO entry but that the problem was the timing.
Her press agency reported: "The issue we discussed was whether the Membership Action Plan (MAP) could be launched by a specific date or not. I cannot answer this question now, either. In December, we will review the issue, but we are firmly moving toward [Georgia's] membership."
Merkel confirmed these events at the Bucharest summit. The question of Georgian and Ukrainian membership is only a matter of time. They have been not denied membership. The NATO ministers will resume the discussion of the issue on August 19. The White House is doing much to persuade them take a resolution on Georgia's admission to the bloc without any reservations, if not on welcoming it with the MAP phase.
But even if they decide to do so, this will only be a tribute to Bush's persistent demands. Georgia will not be able to join the bloc any sooner than five years from now, if that. Ukraine will not become a member until 2017 when its Sevastopol naval base treaty with Russia expires. NATO does not admit countries which have non-NATO military bases. So, Russia will have enough time to prepare for NATO's inevitable extension.
It is not yet clear what else to expect from NATO ministers at this meeting. Some sources report that Washington will insists on fulfilling Saakashvili's request to send NATO military observers into the country to monitor Russia's activities there. But this would be hard to justify. Besides, after the bombing of Yugoslavia, Russia is unlikely to accept NATO's presence in Abkhazia or South Ossetia. The second proposal is the possible liquidation of the Russia-NATO Council, which has operated since 2002. It has been engaged in minor issues of coordinating anti-terrorist actions and general cooperation. If it is dissolved, this will be a symbolic act only.
The ministers are also likely to endorse NATO's "humanitarian aid" to Georgia and even help in upgrading its military infrastructure and armed forces.
Georgia's official invitation to join NATO, if it takes place, will only confirm the validity of Russia's actions. Three Black Sea nations - Turkey, Bulgaria, and Romania - are already NATO members; with Georgia and Ukraine making five, the Black Sea will turn into "Lake NATO." Even the Mediterranean has less NATO control. All post-Soviet division of influence was done in a state of political hangover, but there were still hopes for disputes. At this point, regional influence will be sealed, and Moscow will have to forget about any claims it believes it has on its neighbors.
The gist of the problem is that NATO and Russia are moving toward open confrontation. Russia has no problem with Ukraine's or Georgia's independence but it is concerned about their policies, and even more so, about those who direct their policies. These are Russia's next door neighbors. This is not strictly a Russian reaction, but rather the basics of any country's foreign policy.
20:23 | 18/ 08/ 2008
The opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.
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The Bahamas Is “Adrift” Says Bahamian Anglican Archbishop - Drexel Gomez
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The Nation Is “Adrift” Says Archbishop Gomez:
By TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Bahamas:
Archbishop Drexel Gomez:
A prominent religious leader known not to mince words declared on Sunday that the Bahamas is presently "drifting" and he is not entirely optimistic about its future. "I am ambivalent and sometimes I am not optimistic," said Archbishop Drexel Gomez. "I think that we are just ambling along and making our way. At present I think we are drifting a bit. I don’t really see any clear signals in terms of going in a certain direction and certainly this whole question of empowering people and creating a situation in which Bahamians feel that this is their country and they have a say in what happens, I don’t see that happening."
The Anglican Archbishop for the West Indies and Diocesan Bishop of the Bahamas, was a special guest Sunday on the Jones & Co. radio talk show hosted by Wendall Jones and Godfrey Eneas.
Archbishop Gomez said Bahamians should make it their responsibility to see that they have a government that is trying to keep pace with the realities of their expectations in order to produce a "Bahamianization" policy that is truly Bahamian.
"It [Bahamianization policy] will be a way of life accepted by most people and one that most people can buy into and work towards. [Right now] most Bahamians feel like they don’t have any say in what happens," Archbishop Gomez.
Archbishop Gomez said while he was not "certain" that the future was bright for the Bahamas, he still believes that the Bahamas and its citizens have the wherewithal to move forward in a positive light.
"I think we need the political will," Archbishop stressed. "We need to have a policy that really brings more people into the decision making and find ways of doing it. We really need some real planning and we are not really good at planning as a nation."
"We should be able to say that in 10 years time this is where we want to be. A country must have some idea of where it is headed and in today’s Bahamas, we seem to be headed from one budget speech to the next, interspersed with some news about this foreigner or the next foreigner coming in to spend some money or bring some plan."
"Where is the national plan and where does all of this fit into a national plan" Gomez questioned.
According to the Anglican Archbishop, the Bahamas has the resources available to devise a clear plan of where it wants to go. He added, however, that because he doesn’t see this happening at this present moment, he has no hope.
Asked if he felt that Christianity was competing with secularism, Archbishop Gomez said because the Bahamas exists as a by product of what is going on overseas, especially in America, Bahamians don’t have a sense of what it really means to be Bahamian or to establish a Bahamian way of life.
"What was Bahamian is largely influenced by external forces and external factors," Gomez said. "To add insult to injury, we live in a country where the economy is determined by outsiders….outsiders decide the fate of Bahamians. Unfortunately as a country we don’t seem to be interested in reversing that trend but I would hate to be in a Bahamas that puts a curtain around the whole Bahamas that stops the outsiders from coming in, but I would be happier if we were living in a situation where we were able to determine our destiny in a far greater degree than we presently are."
According to Archbishop Gomez, many Bahamians are caught in a "bind" where too many of them believe that only elected officials hold the wisdom to make sensible decisions and they were not tapping the minds of other intellectuals.
Asked by one of the talk show hosts if the Bahamas had lost its way because it was too caught up in materialism, Gomez said when making a comparison to what the Bahamas was like when he was teenager there has been a drastic change in attitudes.
"In terms of morality, my recollection of my teenage days and earlier, there was a lot of immorality around and we had the same teenage pregnancy problems and illegitimacy was real, although the present figures are higher now than they were then but fundamentally we are different now because our assumptions are different."
"What we take for granted now is quite different from what the older Bahamians took for granted. And therefore expectations change and I think it is the expectations in the Bahamian community today that are creating some of the problems related to crime and violence because people are unable to match their expectations to reality."
Les Bahamas sont « à la dérive » disent l'archevêque bahamien Drexel Gomez
Automatically translated into French thanks to WorldLingo
La nation est « à la dérive » dit l'archevêque Gomez :
Par TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Bahamas :
Archevêque Drexel Gomez :
Un chef religieux en avant connu pour ne pas hacher des mots a déclaré dimanche que les Bahamas actuellement « dérivent » et il n'est pas entièrement optimiste au sujet de son futur. « Je suis ambivalent et parfois je ne suis pas optimiste, » a dit l'archevêque Drexel Gomez. « Je pense que nous sommes chevaucher juste le long et fabrication de notre manière. Actuellement je pense que nous dérivons un peu. Je ne vois vraiment aucun signal clair en termes d'aller dans une certaine direction et certainement ce problème global d'autoriser des personnes et de créer une situation dans laquelle les Bahamiens estiment que c'est leur pays et ils ont une parole dans ce qui se produit, je ne vois pas cela se produire. «
L'archevêque Anglican pour les Indes occidentales et l'évêque diocésain des Bahamas, étaient un invité spécial dimanche sur le Jones et la Cie. exposition par radio d'entretien accueillie par Wendall Jones et Godfrey Eneas.
Les Bahamiens par Gomez d'archevêque devraient lui faire leur responsabilité de voir qu'ils ont un gouvernement qui essaye de suivre les réalités de leurs espérances afin de produire une politique de « Bahamianization » qui est vraiment bahamienne.
« Ce [politique de Bahamianization] sera un mode de vie admis par les la plupart personnes et que la plupart des personnes peuvent acheter dans et travailler vers. [En ce moment] la plupart des Bahamiens se sentent comme ils n'ont aucune parole dans ce qui se produit, le « archevêque Gomez.
Archevêque Gomez dit alors qu'il n'était pas « certain » que le futur était lumineux pour les Bahamas, il croit toujours que les Bahamas et ses citoyens ont les moyens de se déplacer en avant une lumière positive.
« Je pense que nous avons besoin de la volonté politique, » archevêque soumis à une contrainte. « Nous devons avoir une politique qui introduit vraiment plus de personnes dans les manières de prise de décision et de trouvaille de le faire. Nous avons besoin vraiment d'une certaine vraie planification et nous ne sommes pas vraiment bons à la planification comme nation. «
« Nous devrions pouvoir dire qu'en 10 ans chronométrez ceci est où nous voulons être. Un pays doit avoir une certaine idée d'où il est dirigé et en Bahamas d'aujourd'hui, nous semblent être dirigés d'un discours de budget au prochain, entremêlé avec quelques nouvelles au sujet de cet étranger ou du prochain étranger entrant pour dépenser une certaine somme d'argent ou pour apporter un certain plan. «
« Où est le plan national et où fait tout de cet ajustement dans un plan national » Gomez interrogé.
Selon l'archevêque Anglican, les Bahamas ont les ressources disponibles pour concevoir un plan clair d'où il veut disparaître. Il a ajouté, cependant, que parce qu'il ne voit pas ceci se produire à ce moment, il n'a aucun espoir.
Demandé s'il estimait que le christianisme concurrençait le sécularisme, l'archevêque Gomez a dit parce que les Bahamas existent car un sous-produit de ce qui continue outre-mer, particulièrement en Amérique, Bahamiens n'ont pas un sens de ce que signifie vraiment il pour être bahamien ou pour établir un mode de vie bahamien.
« Ce qui était bahamien est en grande partie influencé par les forces externes et les facteurs externes, » Gomez dit. « Pour ajouter l'insulte aux dommages, nous vivons dans un pays où l'économie est déterminée par des étrangers….les étrangers décident le destin des Bahamiens. Malheureusement car un pays nous ne semblent pas être intéressés à renverser que la tendance mais moi détesterait pour être dans les Bahamas qui met un rideau autour de toutes les Bahamas qui arrête les étrangers de l'entrée, mais moi soyez plus heureux si nous vivions dans une situation où nous pouvions déterminer notre destin en degré bien plus grand que nous sommes actuellement. «
Selon l'archevêque Gomez, beaucoup de Bahamiens sont attrapés dans « un grippage » où un trop grand nombre de eux croient que seulement les fonctionnaires élus tiennent la sagesse pour prendre des décisions sensibles et ils ne tapaient pas les esprits d'autres intellectuels.
Demandé par un des centres serveurs d'exposition d'entretien si les Bahamas s'étaient égarées parce qu'il a été trop pris dans le matérialisme, Gomez a dit quand la fabrication d'une comparaison à ce que les Bahamas étaient comme le moment où il était adolescent là a été un changement énergique des attitudes.
« En termes de moralité, mon souvenir de mes jours d'adolescent et plus tôt, il y avait beaucoup d'immoralité autour et nous avons eu les mêmes problèmes d'adolescent de grossesse et l'illégitimité était vraie, bien que les figures actuelles soient plus hautes maintenant qu'elles étaient alors mais fondamentalement nous sommes différents maintenant parce que nos prétentions sont différentes. »
« Ce que nous prenons pour accordé maintenant est tout à fait différent de ce que les Bahamiens plus âgés ont pris pour accordé. Et donc les espérances changent et je pense que c'est les espérances dans la communauté bahamienne aujourd'hui qui créent certains des problèmes liés au crime et la violence parce que les gens ne peuvent pas au match leurs espérances à la réalité. «
Las Bahamas son dicen “a la deriva” a arzobispo Drexel Gomez de Bahamian
Automatically translated into Spanish thanks to WorldLingo
La nación es dice “a la deriva” a arzobispo Gomez:
Por TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Bahamas:
Arzobispo Drexel Gomez:
Un líder religioso prominente conocido para no picar palabras declaró el domingo que las Bahamas “están mandilando actualmente” y él no es enteramente optimista sobre su futuro. “Soy ambivalente y no soy a veces optimista,” dijo a arzobispo Drexel Gomez. “Pienso que somos el amblar justo adelante y fabricación de nuestra manera. Pienso actualmente que estamos mandilando un pedacito. Realmente no veo ninguna señales clara en términos de entrar en cierta dirección y ciertamente esta cuestión entera de autorizar a gente y de crear una situación en la cual la sensación de Bahamians que éste es su país y ella tiene una opinión en qué sucede, yo no ve eso el suceder. “
El arzobispo Anglican para Indias del oeste y el obispo diocesano de las Bahamas, eran una huésped especial domingo en el Jones y el Co. demostración de radio de la charla recibida por Wendall Jones y Godfrey Eneas.
El arzobispo Bahamians dicho Gomez debe hacerle su responsabilidad de ver que tienen un gobierno que esté intentando guardar paso con las realidades de sus expectativas para producir una política de “Bahamianization” que sea verdad Bahamian.
“[Política de Bahamianization] será una manera de la vida aceptada por la mayoría gente y que la mayoría de la gente puede comprar en y trabajar hacia. [Ahora] la mayoría de la sensación de Bahamians como no tienen ninguna opinión en qué sucede, “arzobispo Gomez.
El arzobispo Gomez dijo mientras que él no estaba “seguro” que el futuro era brillante para las Bahamas, él todavía cree que las Bahamas y sus ciudadanos tienen los recursos de moverse adelante en una luz positiva.
“Pienso que necesitamos la voluntad política,” arzobispo tensionado. “Necesitamos tener una política que realmente traiga a más gente en las maneras de la toma de decisión y del hallazgo de hacerlo. Realmente necesitamos un cierto planeamiento verdadero y no somos realmente buenos en el planeamiento como nación. “
“Debemos poder decir que en 10 años mida el tiempo de esto es donde deseamos estar. Un país debe tener cierta idea de donde se dirige y en Bahamas de hoy, nosotros se parece ser dirigido a partir de un discurso del presupuesto al siguiente, entremezclado con un ciertas noticias sobre este extranjero o el extranjero siguiente que entra pasar un poco de dinero o traer un cierto plan. “
“Donde está el plan nacional y donde hace todo este ajuste en un plan nacional” Gomez preguntado.
Según el arzobispo Anglican, las Bahamas tienen los recursos disponibles idear un plan claro de donde desea ir. Él agregó, sin embargo, que porque él no ve esto el suceder en este actual momento, él no tiene ninguna esperanza.
Preguntado si él se sentía que el cristianismo competía con secularism, el arzobispo Gomez dijo porque existen las Bahamas pues un subproducto de qué se está encendiendo en ultramar, especialmente en América, Bahamians no tiene un sentido de lo que realmente significa ser Bahamian o establecer una manera de Bahamian de la vida.
“Cuál era Bahamian es influenciado en gran parte por las fuerzas externas y los factores externos,” Gomez dicho. “Para agregar insulto a lesión, vivimos en un país en donde la economía es determinada por los forasteros….los forasteros deciden el sino de Bahamians. Desafortunadamente como un país nosotros no se parece estar interesado en invertir que la tendencia pero yo odiaría ser en Bahamas que pone una cortina alrededor de las Bahamas enteras que pare a forasteros de venir adentro, solamente yo sea más feliz si vivíamos en una situación donde estábamos capaces de determinar nuestro destino un grado lejos mayor que nosotros estamos actualmente. “
Según el arzobispo Gomez, mucho Bahamians se coge en “un lazo” donde demasiada de ellos creen que solamente los funcionarios elegidos llevan a cabo la sabiduría para tomar decisiones sensibles y no golpeaban ligeramente las mentes de otros intelectuales.
Preguntado por uno de los anfitriones de la demostración de la charla si las Bahamas habían perdido su manera porque fue cogida también para arriba en materialism, Gomez dijo cuándo la fabricación de una comparación a cuál eran las Bahamas como cuando él era adolescente allí ha sido un cambio drástico en actitudes.
“En términos de moralidad, mi recuerdo de mis días adolescentes y anterior, había muchos de inmoralidad alrededor y teníamos los mismos problemas adolescentes del embarazo y el illegitimacy era verdadero, aunque las actuales figuras son más altas ahora que eran entonces pero somos fundamental diferentes ahora porque nuestras asunciones son diferentes. ”
“Qué tomamos para ahora concedido somos absolutamente diferentes de lo que tomó el Bahamians más viejo para concedido. Y por lo tanto las expectativas cambian y pienso que es las expectativas en la comunidad de Bahamian hoy que están creando algunos de los problemas relacionados con el crimen y la violencia porque la gente no puede emparejar sus expectativas a la realidad. “
Le Bahamas è “alla deriva„ dice l'arcivescovo Drexel Gomez di Bahamian
Automatically translated into Italian thanks to WorldLingo
La nazione è “alla deriva„ dice l'arcivescovo Gomez:
Da TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Bahamas:
Arcivescovo Drexel Gomez:
Un capo religioso prominente conosciuto per non tritare le parole ha dichiarato la domenica che le Bahamas attualmente “sta andando alla deriva„ e non è interamente ottimista circa il relativo futuro. “Sono ambivalent ed a volte non sono ottimista,„ ha detto l'arcivescovo Drexel Gomez. “Penso che siamo cavalcare giusto avanti e fare il nostro senso. Attualmente penso che stiamo andando alla deriva una punta. Realmente non vedo alcuni segnali liberi in termini di andare in un determinato senso e certamente questo problema intero di autorizzazione della gente e di generazione della situazione in cui il tatto di Bahamians che questo è il loro paese ed hanno un'opinione in che cosa accade, io non vede quello accadere. “
L'arcivescovo Anglican per le Indie ad ovest ed il Bishop diocesano delle Bahamas, erano un ospite speciale domenica sul Jones & sul Co. esposizione radiofonica di colloquio ospitata da Wendall Jones e da Godfrey Eneas.
L'arcivescovo Bahamians detto Gomez dovrebbe rendergli la loro responsabilità di vedere che hanno un governo che sta provando a stare al passo con le realtà delle loro aspettative per produrre una politica “di Bahamianization„ che è allineare Bahamian.
“[Politica di Bahamianization] sarà un modo di vivere accettato la maggior parte dida gente e della che la maggior parte della gente può comprare in e lavorare verso. [Ora] la maggior parte del tatto di Bahamians come non hanno alcun'opinione in che cosa accade, “arcivescovo Gomez.
L'arcivescovo Gomez ha detto mentre non era “sicuro„ che il futuro era luminoso per le Bahamas, lui ancora crede che le Bahamas ed i relativi cittadini avessero i mezzi per muoversi in avanti ad una luce positiva.
“Penso che abbiamo bisogno del politico politica,„ arcivescovo sollecitato. “Dobbiamo avere una politica che realmente introduce più gente nei sensi del ritrovamento e di risoluzione di farlo. Realmente abbiamo bisogno di una certa progettazione reale e non siamo realmente buoni alla progettazione come nazione. “
“Dovremmo potere dire che tra 10 anni questo è dove desideriamo essere. Un paese deve avere certa idea di dove capo ed in odierne Bahamas, noi sembra essere diretto da un discorso del preventivo al seguente, sparpagliato con alcune notizie circa questo straniero o lo straniero seguente che entra spendere i certi soldi o portare un certo programma. “
“Dove è il programma nazionale e dove fa tutta questa misura in un programma nazionale„ Gomez interrogato.
Secondo l'arcivescovo Anglican, le Bahamas dispone dei mezzi disponibili inventare un programma libero di dove desidera andare. Ha aggiunto, tuttavia, che perché non vede questo accadere a questo momento attuale, non ha speranza.
Chiesto se ritenesse che il Christianity stava competendo al secularism, l'arcivescovo Gomez ha detto perché le Bahamas esiste poichè un sottoprodotto di che cosa sta accendendo oltremare, particolarmente in America, Bahamians non ha un senso di che cosa realmente significa essere Bahamian o stabilire un modo di vivere di Bahamian.
“Che cosa era Bahamian in gran parte è influenzato dalle forze esterne e dai fattori esterni,„ Gomez detto. “Per aggiungere l'insulto alla ferita, viviamo in un paese in cui l'economia è determinata dagli stranieri….gli stranieri decidono il destino di Bahamians. Purtroppo poichè un paese noi non sembra essere interessato al contrario che la tendenza ma io odierebbe essere in le Bahamas che mette una tenda intorno alle Bahamas intere che arresta gli stranieri dall'entrare, ma io sia più felice se stessimo vivendo in una situazione dove potevamo determinare il nostro destino in un grado ben più grande che noi attualmente siamo. “
Secondo l'arcivescovo Gomez, molto Bahamians è interferito “in una legatura„ dove troppi di loro credono che soltanto i funzionari scelti tengano la saggezza per prendere le decisioni ragionevoli e non stavano colpendo le menti leggermente di altri intellettuali.
Chiesto da uno degli ospiti di esposizione di colloquio se le Bahamas avessero perso il relativo senso perché ugualmente è stato raggiunto nel materialism, Gomez ha detto quando fare un confronto a che cosa le Bahamas erano come quando era adolescente là è stato un cambiamento drastico negli atteggiamenti.
“In termini di moralità, il mio ricordo dei miei giorni teenage e più presto, ci era immorality molto intorno ed abbiamo avuti gli stessi problemi teenage di gravidanza e il illegitimacy era reale, anche se le figure attuali ora sono più alte che erano allora ma ora siamo fondamentalmente differenti perché i nostri presupposti sono differenti. „
“Che cosa prendiamo per ora assegnato siamo abbastanza differenti da che cosa il più vecchio Bahamians ha preso per assegnato. E quindi le aspettative cambiano e penso che sia oggi le aspettative nella Comunità di Bahamian che stanno generando alcuni dei problemi relativi al crimine e la violenza perché la gente non può abbinare le loro aspettative alla realtà. “
Die Bahamas ist „hilflos“ sagt Bahamian Erzbischof Drexel Gomez
Automatically translated into German thanks to WorldLingo
Die Nation ist „hilflos“ sagt Erzbischof Gomez:
Durch TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Bahamas:
Erzbischof Drexel Gomez:
Ein vorstehender frommer Führer, der, um bekannt ist Wörter nicht zu zerkleinern, erklärte am Sonntag, daß die Bahamas momentan „treibt“ und er nicht über seine Zukunft völlig optimistisch ist. „Ich bin ambivalent und manchmal bin ich nicht optimistisch,“ sagte Erzbischof Drexel Gomez. „Ich denke, daß wir gerechtes entlang schlenderen und Bilden unserer Weise sind. Zur Zeit denke ich, daß wir eine Spitze treiben. Ich sehe wirklich keine freien Signale in dem Gehen in eine bestimmte Richtung ausgedrückt und zweifellos diese vollständige Frage des Bevollmächtigens der Leute und des Verursachens einer Situation, in der Bahamians Gefühl, daß dieses ihr Land ist und sie ein Sagen haben in, was geschieht, ich nicht das sehen, zu geschehen. „
Der anglikanische Erzbischof für die Westinseln und der DiözesanBishop der Bahamas, waren ein spezieller Gast Sonntag auf dem Jones u. der Co. Radiogespräch Erscheinen bewirtet von Wendall Jones und von Godfrey Eneas.
Erzbischof Gomez besagtes Bahamians sollte es ihre Verantwortlichkeit bilden, zu sehen, daß sie eine Regierung haben, die versucht, Schritt mit den Wirklichkeiten ihrer Erwartungen zu halten, um eine „Bahamianization“ Politik zu produzieren, die wirklich Bahamian ist.
„Es [Bahamianization Politik] ist eine Lebensart angenommen durch die meisten Leute und, daß die meisten Leute in kaufen und in Richtung zu arbeiten können. [Im Augenblick] das meiste Bahamians Gefühl, wie sie kein Sagen haben in, was geschieht, „Erzbischof Gomez.
Erzbischof Gomez sagte, während er nicht, daß die Zukunft für die Bahamas hell war, er glaubt noch „sicher“ war, daß die Bahamas und seine Bürger das Nötige haben, vorwärts in ein positives Licht zu bewegen.
„Ich denke, daß wir den politischen Willen benötigen,“ der betonte Erzbischof. „Wir müssen eine Politik haben, die wirklich mehr Leute in die Beschlußfassung und Entdeckungweisen des Tuns es holt. Wir benötigen wirklich irgendeine reale Planung und wir sind nicht an der Planung als Nation wirklich gut. „
„Sollten wir sagen, daß in 10 Jahren Zeit dieses ist festsetzen Sie, wo wir sein möchten. Ein Land muß haben irgendeine Idee von, der es und in heutigen Bahamas vorangegangen wird, wir scheinen, von einer Etatrede zum folgenden vorangegangen zu werden, vermischt worden mit etwas Nachrichten über diesen Ausländer oder den folgenden Ausländer, der hereinkommt, etwas Geld auszugeben oder irgendeinen Plan zu holen. „
„, wo der nationale Plan ist und wo die ganze diesen Sitz in einen nationalen Plan“ gefragter Gomez tut.
Nach Ansicht des anglikanischen Erzbischofs hat die Bahamas die Betriebsmittel, die, zu planen einen freien Plan vorhanden sind von, dem er gehen möchte. Er fügte jedoch hinzu daß, weil er nicht dieses sieht, an diesem anwesenden Moment zu geschehen, er keine Hoffnung hat.
Gefragt, ob er glaubte, daß Christentum mit secularism konkurrierte, sagte Erzbischof Gomez, weil die Bahamas besteht, da eine Nebenerscheinung von was übersee, besonders in Amerika, Bahamians weitergeht, nicht eine Richtung haben von, was sie wirklich, Bahamian zu sein bedeutet oder eine Bahamian Lebensart herzustellen.
„Was war, wird Bahamian groß durch externe Kräfte und externe Faktoren beeinflußt,“ gesagter Gomez. „, Beleidigung Verletzung hinzuzufügen, leben wir in einem Land, in dem die Wirtschaft wird festgestellt von den Außenseitern….Außenseiter entscheiden das Schicksal von Bahamians. Leider, da ein Land wir nicht scheinen, an dem Aufheben interessiert zu werden, daß Tendenz aber ich hassen würden, in Bahamas zu sein, das einen Vorhang um die vollständigen Bahamas setzt, der die Außenseiter von hereinkommen stoppt, aber ich seien Sie glücklicher, wenn wir in einer Situation, in der wir waren, unser Schicksal in einem weit grösseren Grad, als festzustellen wir sind momentan lebten. „
Nach Ansicht des Erzbischofs Gomez, viel werden Bahamians in einer „Bindung“ verfangen, wo zu viele von ihnen glauben, daß nur gewählte Beamte die Klugheit halten, um vernünftige Entscheidungen zu treffen und sie nicht den Verstand anderer Intellektueller klopften.
Durch einen der Gespräch Erscheinenwirte, ob die Bahamas seine Weise, weil verloren hatten sie auch oben im Materialismus, verfangen wurde Gomez gefragt sagte, wann, zu vergleichen zu was die Bahamas waren wie, als er Jugendlicher dort war, eine drastische änderung in der Haltung gewesen ist.
„In Sittlichkeitsgefühl, meine Erinnerung meiner Jugendtage ausgedrückt und früh, gab es eine Menge Unmoral herum und wir hatten die gleichen Jugendschwangerschaftprobleme und illegitimacy war real, obgleich die anwesenden Abbildungen jetzt höher sind, als sie dann waren, aber grundlegend wir jetzt unterschiedlich sind, weil unsere Annahmen unterschiedlich sind. “
„, was wir für jetzt bewilligt sind ziemlich unterschiedlich nehmen zu, was das ältere Bahamians für bewilligt nahm. Und folglich ändern Erwartungen und ich denke, daß es die Erwartungen in der Bahamian Gemeinschaft heute ist, die einige der Probleme verursachen, die auf Verbrechen bezogen werden und Gewalttätigkeit, weil Leute nicht imstande sind, ihre Erwartungen zur Wirklichkeit zusammenzubringen. „
Os Bahamas são “Adrift” dizem o Archbishop Drexel Gomez de Bahamian
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A nação é “Adrift” diz o Archbishop Gomez:
Por TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Bahamas:
Archbishop Drexel Gomez:
Um líder religioso proeminente conhecido para não mince palavras declarou em domingo que os Bahamas presentemente “drifting” e não é inteiramente optimistic sobre seu futuro. “Eu sou ambivalent e às vezes eu não sou optimistic,” disse o Archbishop Drexel Gomez. “Eu penso de que nós somos andar de esquipado justo longitudinalmente e fazer nossa maneira. No presente eu penso que nós drifting um bocado. Eu não v realmente nenhuns sinais desobstruídos nos termos de ir em um determinado sentido e certamente esta pergunta inteira de empowering povos e de criar uma situação em que a sensação de Bahamians que este é seu país e têm uma palavra em o que acontece, mim não vê aquela acontecer. “
O Archbishop Anglican para as Índias ocidentais e o Bishop Diocesan dos Bahamas, eram um convidado especial domingo no Jones & no Co. mostra de rádio da conversa hospedada por Wendall Jones e por Godfrey Eneas.
O Archbishop Bahamians dito Gomez deve fazer-lhe sua responsabilidade ver que têm um governo que esteja tentando manter o ritmo com as realidades de suas expectativas a fim produzir uma política de “Bahamianization” que seja verdadeiramente Bahamian.
“[Política de Bahamianization] será uma maneira de vida aceitada por por a maioria povos e que a maioria de povos podem comprar em e trabalhar para. [Direito agora] a maioria de sensação de Bahamians como não têm nenhuma palavra em o que acontece, “Archbishop Gomez.
O Archbishop Gomez disse quando não estava “certo” que o futuro era brilhante para os Bahamas, ele acredita ainda que os Bahamas e seus cidadãos têm o wherewithal se mover para a frente em uma luz positiva.
“Eu penso que nós necessitamos a vontade política,” Archbishop forçado. “Nós necessitamos ter uma política que traga realmente mais povos nas maneiras da tomada de decisão e do achado de o fazer. Nós necessitamos realmente algum planeamento real e nós não somos realmente bons no planeamento como uma nação. “
“Nós devemos dizemos que em 10 anos cronometre isto é onde nós queremos estar. Um país deve ter alguma idéia de onde é dirigido e em Bahamas de hoje, nós parece ser dirigido de um discurso do orçamento ao seguinte, interspersed com alguma notícia sobre este estrangeiro ou o estrangeiro seguinte que entra gastar algum dinheiro ou trazer alguma planta. “
“Onde está a planta nacional e onde faz todo este ajuste em uma planta nacional” Gomez questionado.
De acordo com o Archbishop Anglican, os Bahamas têm os recursos disponíveis para planejar uma planta desobstruída de onde queira ir. Adicionou, entretanto, que porque não vê este acontecer neste momento atual, não tem nenhuma esperança.
Perguntado se sentisse que o Christianity estava competindo com o secularism, o Archbishop Gomez disse porque os Bahamas existem como a perto - o produto de o que está indo sobre no ultramar, especialmente em América, Bahamians não tem um sentido de o que significa realmente ser Bahamian ou estabelecer uma maneira de Bahamian de vida.
“O que era Bahamian é influenciado pela maior parte por forças externas e por fatores externos,” Gomez dito. “Para adicionar o insulto a ferimento, nós vivemos em um país onde a economia seja determinada por outsiders….os outsiders decidem o fate de Bahamians. Infelizmente porque um país nós não parece ser interessado em inverter que a tendência mas eu odiaria ser no Bahamas que enrola uma cortina nos Bahamas inteiros que pare os outsiders da vinda dentro, mas mim seja mais feliz se nós estivermos vivendo em uma situação onde nós possamos determinar nosso destiny em um grau distante mais grande do que nós estejamos presentemente. “
De acordo com o Archbishop Gomez, muito Bahamians é travado “em um ligamento” onde demasiados deles acreditam que somente os oficiais eleitos prendem a sabedoria para fazer decisões sensible e não batiam as mentes de outros intelectuais.
Perguntado por um dos anfitriões da mostra da conversa se os Bahamas perdessem sua maneira porque foi apanhada demasiado no materialism, Gomez disse quando fazer uma comparação com o que os Bahamas fossem como quando era teenager lá foi uma mudança drástica nas atitudes.
“Nos termos do morality, meu recollection de meus dias teenage e mais cedo, havia uns muitos do immorality ao redor e nós tivemos os mesmos problemas teenage da gravidez e o illegitimacy era real, embora as figuras atuais fossem mais elevadas agora do que eram então mas fundamental nós somos diferentes agora porque nossas suposições são diferentes. ”
“O que nós fazemos exame para concedido agora somos completamente diferentes de o que o Bahamians mais velho fêz exame para concedido. E conseqüentemente as expectativas mudam e eu penso que é as expectativas na comunidade de Bahamian hoje que estão criando alguns dos problemas relacionados ao crime e a violência porque os povos são incapazes de combinar suas expectativas à realidade. “
Bahamas är den bahamanska ärkebiskopen Drexel Gomez ”för på drift” något att säga
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Nationen är ”den på drift” något att sägaärkebiskopen Gomez:
Vid TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Bahamas:
Ärkebiskop Drexel Gomez:
En bekant framstående religiös ledare att inte finhacka uttrycker förklarat på söndag att Bahamas ”driver just nu” och han inte är helt optimistisk om dess framtid. ”Sade den ambivalentt och ibland den inte optimistiska I-förmiddagen I-förmiddagen,” ärkebiskopen Drexel Gomez. ”I-funderare att vi är rättvis ambling along och vår danande långt. I dagsläget bet funderare I som vi driver a. Jag ser inte egentligen att någon frikänd signalerar benämner in av att gå i en bestämd riktning och bestämt detta helt ifrågasätter av att bemyndiga folk och skapa ett läge som bahamankänselförnimmelsen, att detta är deras land och de har en något att säga i vad händer, mig inte ser det att hända i. ”
Var den Anglican ärkebiskopen för de västra Indiesna och den Diocesan biskopen av Bahamas, en special gästsöndag på Jonesen & Co.en radiosände pratprogrammet som varades värd av Wendall Jones och Godfrey Eneas.
Sagda bahamän för ärkebiskopen bör Gomez göra det deras ansvar att se att de har en regering som är pröva till uppehället stegar med verklighetarna av deras förväntanför att jordbruksprodukter ”en Bahamianization” politik, som är riktigt bahamansk.
”Ska det [Bahamianization politik] är en livsföring som accepterades av mest folk, och en som mest folk can köp in i och fungerar in mot. [Rätt nu] mest bahamankänselförnimmelsenågot liknande har de inte någon något att säga i vad händer, ”ärkebiskopen Gomez.
Ärkebiskopen som sagda Gomez fördriver honom, var inte ”bestämd”, att framtiden var ljus för Bahamas, honom stillar troar att Bahamas och dess medborgare har wherewithalen till flyttningen framåtriktat i en realitet tänder.
”I-funderare behöver vi politiskt ska,” den stressade ärkebiskopen. ”Behöver vi att ha en politik som kommer med egentligen mer folk in i beslutsfattande- och fyndvägen av att göra det. Vi behöver egentligen något verkligt planera, och vi är inte egentligen godan på att planera som en nation. ”
”Bör vi kan något att säga som i 10 år tajmar denna är var vi önskar att vara. Ett land måste ha någon idé av, var det är hövdat och i dagens Bahamas, oss verkar för att vara hövdat från ett budget- anförande till det nästa, interspersed med någon utlänning för nyheterna härom, eller den kommande nästa utlänningen in att spendera några pengar eller att komma med något planerar. ”
”Var är medborgare planerar och, var gör all denna passform in i en medborgare planerar” ifrågasatte Gomez.
Enligt den Anglican ärkebiskopen har Bahamas de tillgängliga resurserna att planera en frikänd planerar av var den önskar att gå. Han tillfogade, emellertid, att, därför att han inte ser denna att hända på detta närvarande ögonblick, han har inget hopp.
Frågat, om han klädde med filt att kristendomen konkurrerade med secularism, sade ärkebiskopen Gomez, därför att Bahamas finns, som en biprodukt av vad går på utländskt, speciellt i Amerika, bahamän, inte har en avkänning av vad det egentligen hjälpmedel att vara bahamansk eller att upprätta en bahamansk livsföring.
”Vad var bahamansk påverkas i hög grad av yttre styrkor och utsidan dela upp i faktorer,” sagda Gomez. ”Att tillfoga förolämpning till skadan, bor vi i ett land var ekonomin är beslutsam vid icke-favorit….,icke-favorit avgör ödet av bahamän. Tyvärr, som ett land som vi inte verkar för att intresseras, i att vända om den trend, men jag skulle hat att vara i en Bahamas som sätter en gardin runt om den hela Bahamas, som stoppar icke-favorit från kommande in, bara mig skulle är mer lycklig, om vi bodde i ett läge, var vi var kompetent att bestämma vår öde i en långt mer större grad, än oss är just nu. ”
Enligt ärkebiskopen Gomez, fångas många bahamän i ”en röra” var för många av dem som var tros, som endast vald tjänsteman rymmer visheten för att göra förnuftiga beslut och dem inte var knackning varar besvärad av andra intellektueller.
Frågat av en av pratprogrammet varar värd, om Bahamas hade borttappadt dess långt, därför att det fångades för upp i materialism, sagda Gomez, när danande en jämförelse till vad Bahamas var lik, då han var tonåringen där, har varit en drastisk ändring i inställningar.
”Benämner in av moral, min erinring av min tonårs- dagar och tidigare, fanns det en raddaimmorality omkring, och vi hade de samma tonårs- havandeskapproblemen, och illegitimacyen var verklig, även om gåvan figurerar är högre nu, än de var därefter, men grundläggande vi är olika nu, därför att våra antaganden är olika. ”
”Vad vi tar för beviljat nu är ganska olika från vad de äldre bahamännen tog för beviljat. Och därför ändrar funderare förväntningar och I- somdet är förväntningarna i den bahamanska gemenskapen i dag, som skapar några av problemen släkta till brott och våld, därför att folket är oförmöget att matcha deras förväntningar till verklighet. ”,
Багамы «Adrift» говорят архиепископу Drexel Gomez Bahamian
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Нация «Adrift» говорит архиепископу Gomez:
TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, Багамами:
Архиепископ Drexel Gomez:
Видно вероисповедный руководитель известный не семенить слова объявил на воскресенье что Багамы в настоящее время «перемещаются» и он не вс оптимистическ о своем будущем. «Я амбивалентен и иногда я не оптимистическ,» сказал архиепископу Drexel Gomez. «Я думаю что мы справедливый ambling вперед и делать нашу дорогу. В настоящее время я думаю мы перемещается бит. Я реально не вижу NIKAKие ясные сигналы in terms of идти в некоторое направление и некоторо этот весь вопрос empowering люди и создавать ситуацию в чывство Bahamians что это будет их страной и они имеет мнение в случается, я не видит, что то случает. «
Английский архиепископ для западных Indies и епархиальное епископ Багам, были специальным гостем воскресеньем на Jones & cCo. radio разговорное шоу, котор хозяйничает Wendall Jones и Godfrey Eneas.
Архиепископ Bahamians сказанное Gomez должен сделать им их ответственность увидеть что они имеют правительство пытается держать побежку с реальностями их ожиданностей для того чтобы произвести политикой «Bahamianization» будет поистине Bahamian.
«[Политика Bahamianization] будет дорогой жизни принятой большинств людьми и одним что большинств люди могут купить в и работать к. [Right now] большинств чывство Bahamians как они не имеют NIKAKое мнение в случается, «архиепископ Gomez.
Архиепископ Gomez сказал пока он не был «уверен» что будущее было ярко для Багам, он все еще верит что Багамы и свои граждане имеют wherewithal двинуть вперед в положительный свет.
«Я думаю нам нужно political will,» усиленный архиепископ. «Нам нужно иметь политику реально приносит больше людей в дороги процесса принятия решений и находки делать его. Нам реально нужно некоторое реальное запланирование и мы не реально хороши на запланировании как нация. «
«Мы сказали что в 10 летах приурочьте это будет где мы хотим быть. Кажется, что возглавлена страна должна иметь некоторую идею где она возглавлена и в сегодняшних Багамах, мы от одной речи бюджети к следующему, после того как она interspersed с некоторыми новостями о этом иноплеменнике или следующем иноплеменнике приходя внутри потратить некоторую деньг или принести некоторый план. «
«Где национальный план и где делает всю из этой спрошенной пригонки в национальный план» Gomez.
Согласно английскому архиепископу, Багамы имеют имеющиеся ресурсы изобрести ясный план где он хочет пойти. Он добавил, однако, что потому что он не видит, что это случает на этом присытствыющем моменте, он не имеет никакое упование.
Я спрошен если он чувствовал, то что христианство состязалось с secularism, архиепископ Gomez сказал потому что Багамы существуют по мере того как субпродукт идет дальше за морем, специально в америку, Bahamians не имеет чувство оно реально намеревается быть Bahamian или устанавливать дорога Bahamian жизни.
«Было Bahamian больш повлияно на внешними усилиями и внешния факторы,» сказанное Gomez. «Добавить оскорбление к ушибу, мы живем в стране где экономия обусловлена аутсайдерами….аутсайдеры решают судьбу Bahamians. Несчастливо по мере того как не кажется, что заинтересована страна мы в обращать что тенденцией но мной ненавидим быть в Багамы кладет занавес вокруг всех Багам останавливает аутсайдеров от приходить внутри, только я был счастливо если мы жили в ситуации где мы могли обусловить наш destiny в значительно большом STEPENи чем мы в настоящее время. «
Согласно архиепископу Gomez, много Bahamians уловлено в «bind» где too many из их верят что только избранные должностные лица держат премудрость для того чтобы сделать здравые решения и они не выстукивали разумы других интеллигенток.
Спрошено одним из хозяина разговорное шоу если Багамы потеряли свою дорогу, то потому что она слишком была уловлена вверх в materialism, Gomez сказал когда делать сравнение к Багамы были как когда он был teenager там был drastic изменением в ориентациях.
«In terms of morality, мое вспоминание моих подростковых дней и более раньше, было множество immorality вокруг и мы имели такие же подростковые проблемы стельности и illegitimacy было реально, хотя присытствыющие рисунки более высоки теперь чем они были после этого но основно мы друг теперь потому что наши предположения друг. »
«Мы принимаем для после того как мы дарены теперь отличаем довольно более старое Bahamians приняло для после того как оно дарено. И поэтому ожиданности изменяют и я думаю будет ожиданностями в общине Bahamian сегодня создают некоторые из проблем отнесенных к злодеянию и расправа потому что люди неспособны сопрягать их ожиданности к реальности. «
De Bahamas zijn zeggen „op drift“ Bahamiaanse Aartsbisschop Drexel Gomez
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De natie is zegt „op drift“ Aartsbisschop Gomez:
Door TAMARA McKENZIE-
Nassau, de Bahamas:
Aartsbisschop Drexel Gomez:
Een prominente godsdienstige leider wordt gekend om woorden die niet fijn te hakken die op Zondag worden verklaard dat de Bahamas weldra „afdrijven“ en hij is niet volledig optimistisch over zijn toekomst. „ik ben ambivalent en soms ben ik niet optimistisch,“ zei Aartsbisschop Drexel Gomez. „Ik denk dat wij ambling enkel en onze manier maken. Momenteel denk ik wij een beetje afdrijven. Ik zie werkelijk geen duidelijke signalen in termen van het gaan in een bepaalde richting en zeker deze gehele kwestie om mensen te machtigen en creërend een situatie waarin Bahamianen van mening zijn dat dit hun land is en zij hebben in wat zeggen gebeurt, zie ik dat het gebeuren niet. De „
Anglicaanse Aartsbisschop voor de Antillen en de Diocesane Bischop van de Bahamas, was een speciale gastZondag op Jones & Co. de radio bespreking toont ontvangen door Wendall Jones en Godfrey Eneas.
Aartsbisschop Gomez zei Bahamianen tot het hun verantwoordelijkheid zouden moeten maken om te zien dat zij een overheid hebben die probeert om tempo met de werkelijkheid van hun verwachtingen te houden om een beleid te veroorzaken „Bahamianization“ dat echt Bahamiaans is.
„Het [beleid Bahamianization] zal een manier van het leven toegelaten door de meeste mensen en één zijn wie kunnen kopen de meeste mensen in en het werk naar. [Op dit ogenblik] de meeste Bahamianen vinden als zij geen hebben in wat zeggen gebeurt, „Aartsbisschop Gomez.
Aartsbisschop Gomez zei terwijl hij niet „bepaald“ dat de toekomst voor de Bahamas rooskleurig was was, gelooft hij nog dat de Bahamas en zijn burgers de middelen om zich vooruit in een positief licht hebben te bewegen.
„ik denk wij de politieke wil nodig hebben,“ beklemtoonde Aartsbisschop. „Wij moeten een beleid hebben dat werkelijk meer mensen in het besluit - makend brengt en vinden manieren om het te doen. Wij hebben werkelijk wat echte planning nodig en wij zijn niet werkelijk goed bij planning als natie. „
„Wij zouden moeten kunnen zeggen dat in 10 jaar tijd dit is waar wij willen zijn. Een land moet één of ander idee van hebben waar het en in de Bahamas wordt geleid van vandaag, schijnen wij om van één begrotingsrede aan volgende worden geleid, gestrooid met sommige nieuws over deze vreemdeling of volgende vreemdeling die wat geld binnenkomt te besteden of één of ander plan te brengen. „
„Waar het nationale plan is en waar elk van deze pasvorm in een nationaal plan“ Gomez vroeg.
Volgens de Anglicaanse Aartsbisschop, hebben de Bahamas de beschikbare middelen om een duidelijk plan van te bedenken waar het wil gaan. Hij voegde, echter toe, dat omdat hij dit het gebeuren niet op dit huidige ogenblik ziet, hij geen hoop heeft.
Gevraagd of was hij van mening dat het Christendom met secularism concurreerde, zei Aartsbisschop Gomez omdat de Bahamas aangezien a langs bestaan - het product van wat op, vooral in Amerika overzee gaat, Bahamianen heeft geen betekenis van wat het werkelijk om Bahamiaans betekent te zijn of een Bahamiaanse manier van het leven te vestigen.
„Wat wordt Bahamiaans was grotendeels beïnvloed door externe krachten en de externe factoren,“ Gomez zeiden. „Om belediging aan verwonding toe te voegen, leven wij in een land waar de economie door buitenstaanders…. wordt bepaaldde buitenstaanders beslissen het lot van Bahamianen. Jammer genoeg als land wij niet geinteresseerd schijnen te zijn in het omkeren die neigen maar ik om in de Bahamas zou haten te zijn die een gordijn rond de gehele Bahamas zet dat de buitenstaanders van binnen komst tegenhoudt, maar ik zou gelukkiger zijn als wij in een situatie leefden waar wij ons lot in een veel grotere graad konden bepalen dan wij weldra zijn. „
Volgens Aartsbisschop Gomez, worden vele Bahamianen gevangen in „binden“ waar teveel van hen geloven dat slechts de verkozen ambtenaren de wijsheid houden om zinnige besluiten te nemen en zij onttrokken niet de meningen van andere intellectuelen.
Gevraagd door één van de bespreking toon gastheren als de Bahamas zijn manier omdat het ook in materialisme werd ingehaald hadden verloren, zei Gomez toen het maken van een vergelijking aan wat de Bahamas waren als toen hij daar tiener was is geweest een drastische verandering in houdingen.
„In termen van ethiek, mijn herinnering van mijn tienerdagen en vroeger, waren er heel wat rond immorality en wij hadden de zelfde tienerzwangerschapsproblemen en illegitimacy was echt, hoewel de huidige cijfers nu hoger zijn dan zij toen waren maar fundamenteel zijn wij nu verschillend omdat onze veronderstellingen verschillend zijn. “
„Wat wij voor nu verleend nemen is vrij verschillend van wat de oudere Bahamianen voor verleend namen. En daarom veranderen de verwachtingen en ik denk het de verwachtingen vandaag in de Bahamiaanse gemeenschap is die tot enkele problemen met betrekking tot misdaad en geweld leiden omdat de mensen hun verwachtingen aan werkelijkheid niet kunnen aanpassen. „
باهاماس "على غير هدى" يقول [بهمين] رئيس الأساقفة [درإكسل] [غمز]
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الأمة "على غير هدى" يقول رئيس الأساقفة [غمز]:
ب [تمرا] [مكنزي-]
[نسّو], باهاماس:
رئيس الأساقفة [درإكسل] [غمز]:
أفاد زعيمة بارزة دينيّة يعرف لا أن يفرم كلمات في يوم الأحد أنّ باهاماس حاليّا "ينجرفون" وهو ليس كلّيّا متفائلة حول مستقبله. "أنا متناقضة وأحيانا ليس أنا متفائلة," قال رئيس الأساقفة [درإكسل] [غمز]. "يفكّر أنا أنّ نحن صحيحة يرهو جانبا ويجعل طريقنا. [أت برسنت] يفكّر أنا نحن نّجرف لقمة. يرى أنا لا حقّا أيّ إشارات واضحة بخصوص يذهب في اتّجاه مؤكّدة وبالتّأكيد هذا [وهول قوسأيشن] من يفوّض الناس ويخلق حالة في أيّ [بهمين] إحساس أنّ هذا بلدهم وهم يتلقّون رأي في ماذا يحدث, أنا لا يرى أنّ يحدث. "
كان الرئيس الأساقفة [أنغليكن] ل [وست ينديس] وأسقف أبرشيّة من باهاماس, ضيفة خاصّة يوم الأحد على جونس & [ك.]. لاسلكيّة محادثة عرض يستضاف ب [وندلّ] جونس و [غدفري] [إنس].
رئيس الأساقفة [غمز] يقال [بهمين] سوفت جعلت هو مسؤوليتهم أن يرى أنّ يتلقّى هم حكومة أنّ يكون يحاول أن يحافظ خطوة مع الحقائق من توقعاتهم [إين وردر تو] أنتجت "[بهمينيزأيشن]" سياسة أنّ يكون حقّا [بهمين].
"سيكون هو [[بهمينيزأيشن] سياسة] [وي وف ليف] يقبل ب كثير الناس وواحدة أنّ كثير الناس يستطيع اشتريت داخل وعملت نحو. [حاليّا] كثير [بهمين] إحساس مثل هم لا يتلقّون أيّ رأي في ماذا يحدث, "رئيس الأساقفة [غمز].
قال رئيس الأساقفة [غمز] بينما هو [ب] لم "مؤكّدة" أنّ المستقبل كان ساطعة لباهاماس, هو بعد يصدق أنّ باهاماس ومواطناته يتلقّون المال أن يتحرّك إلى الأمام في ضوء إيجابيّة.
"يفكّر أنا نحن نحتاج ال [بوليتيكل ويلّ]," رئيس الأساقفة يضغط. "يحتاج نحن أن يتلقّى سياسة أنّ حقّا يحضر كثير الناس داخل ال [دسسون-مكينغ] واكتشاف طرق من يتمّ هو. نحن حقّا نحتاج بعض تخطيط حقيقيّة وليس نحن حقّا جيّدة في تخطيط كأمة. وقّتت "
"نحن سوفت كنت يمكن أن يقول أنّ في 10 سنون هذا حيث نحن نريد أن يكون. بلد ينبغي يتلقّى بعض فكرة من حيث هو يكون [هدد] وفي باهاماس هذه الأيّام, نحن يبدو أن يكون [هدد] من واحدة ميزانية خطبة إلى التالية, يرصّع مع بعض أخبار حول هذا أجنبية أو الأجنبية تالية يأتي داخل أن ينفق بعض مال أو أحضرت بعض خطة. "
"حيث يكون الخطة وطنيّة وحيث يتمّ كلّ من هذا نوبة داخل خطة وطنيّة" [غمز] يستنطق.
وفقا ل الرئيس الأساقفة [أنغليكن], يتلقّى باهاماس الموردات يتوفّر أن [دفيز] خطة واضحة من حيث هو يريد أن يذهب. هو أضاف, مهما, أنّ لأنّ هو لا يرى هذا يحدث في هذا عزم حاضرة, يتلقّى هو ما من أمل.
يسأل إن هو [فلت] أنّ نافس مسيحية كان مع [سكلريسم], رئيس الأساقفة [غمز] قال لأنّ باهاماس يتواجدون بما أنّ منتج جانبيّ من ماذا يكون يذهب فوق عبر البحار, خصوصا في أمريكا, [بهمين] لا يتلقّى إحساس من ماذا هو حقّا يعني أن يكون [بهمين] أو أن يؤسّس [بهمين] [وي وف ليف].
"ماذا كان أثرت [بهمين] كثيرا بقوات خارجيّة وعاملات خارجيّة," [غمز] يقال. "أن يضيف إهانة إلى إصابة, يعيش نحن في بلد حيث الاقتصاد يكون حدّدت بدخيلات….دخيلات يقرّرون القدر [بهمين]. لسوء الحظّ بما أنّ بلد نحن لا يبدو أن يكون هممت في يعكس أنّ كره اتّجاه غير أنّ أنا أن يكون في باهاماس أنّ يضع ستار حول باهاماس كاملة أنّ يتوقّف الدخيلات من يأتي داخل, غير أنّ أنا كنت سعيدة إن نحن كان عشنا في حالة حيث نحن كنّا يمكن أن يحدّ مصيرنا في درجة عظيمة بعيدا من نحن حاليّا. "
وفقا ل رئيس الأساقفة [غمز], كثير مسكت [بهمين] في "رباط" حيث [توو مني] من هم يصدق أنّ فقط ينتخب مسؤولات يمسكون الحكمة أن يجعل قرارات محسوسة وهم كان لم يبزلوا العقول من أخرى مثقفات.
قال يسأل بواحدة من المحادثة عرض مضيفات إن باهاماس كانوا قد خسروا طريقه لأنّ هو كان أيضا مسكت فوق في مادية, [غمز] عندما يجعل مقارنة إلى ماذا باهاماس كانوا مثل عندما هو كان مراهقة هناك قد كان تغير صارمة في مواقف.
"بخصوص أخلاقية, تذكري من أيامي مراهقة و [إرلير], كان هناك [ا لوت] الأخلاقية حوالي ونحن تلقّينا ال نفسه مراهقة حالة حمل مشاكل ولاشرعيّة كان حقيقيّة, رغم أنّ الأرقام حاضرة يكونون [هيغر] الآن من هم كانوا بعد ذلك غير أنّ أساسيّا نحن مختلفة الآن لأنّ افتراضاتنا يكونون مختلفة. "
"ماذا نحن نأخذ ل يمنح الآن يكون الى حدّ بعيد مختلفة من ماذا [بهمين] قديمة أخذ ل يمنح. ولذلك يغيّر توقعات وأنا أفكّر هو التوقعات في [بهمين] جماعة اليوم أنّ يكون يخلق بعض من المشاكل يرتبط إلى جريمة وعنف لأنّ الناس يكونون يعجز أن تلاءم توقعاتهم إلى حقيقة. "
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Background to conflict: independent streak of breakaway republics
Related to country: Georgia
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Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia fought wars of independence with Georgia in the early 90s - and won de facto sovereignty. But the roots of the conflict between Georgia and its breakaway regions can be traced back much further.
Both breakaway republics are striving for a future that is independent of Georgia, but each has very different histories.
When Georgia was annexed by the Russian empire in 1801, it came without either of the two regions.
South Ossetia, then part of a larger Ossetia region, had been absorbed into Russia 17 years before, through an agreement with the Ottoman Empire.
Abkhazia, was incorporated separately in 1910, as Russia gradually gained control of the South Caucasus.
“The situations with Abkhazia and South Ossetia are different,” explains Sergey Artyunov from the Caucasus department of the Russian Academy of Science.
“Abkhazia was a separate country historically, the Abkhazian population never agreed, in their hearts at least, to a unification with Georgia. South Ossetia did not exist historically as a separate region.”
The Soviet Revolution of 1917 prompted another redrawing of the Caucasus map.
The Bolsheviks, under Vladimir Lenin, split the Russian empire into 15 Republics. South Ossetia was made an autonomous region within Georgia in 1922, while Abkhazia remained a republic in its own right until Stalin incorporated it into the Georgian republic in 1931, where his repressions soon followed.
Stalin supported Lavrenty Beria, the then leader of the Georgian republic, in his Georgianisation drive.
Abkhazia was subjected to brutal acts of ethnic cleansing and many Georgians were forcibly resettled in the region.
Secessionist voices in the area remained silent until, in the twilight of the Soviet Union, perestroika sparked a wave of nationalism.
“In the 1990s, after the Soviet Union split, this old conflict has re-surfaced,” says Moscow News journalist Kirill Bessonov.
Two wars followed, as first South Ossetia and then Abkhazia claimed independence.
Thousands died and a wave of refugees left both regions.
But ceasefires brought de facto independence to both Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as well as peacekeeping forces, largely supplemented by Russian troops.
“Under any circumstances Russia remains the key guarantor of peace and stability,” said the president of South Ossetia Eduard Kokoity in December 2006. “Not only in the Georgian-Ossetian and Georgian-Abkhazian conflict areas, but also in the whole Caucasus region.”
But despite the agreements, the ceasefire never completely materialised.
Sporadic violence continued throughout the next two decades with Georgia repeatedly accusing Russia of stirring up tensions.
“We do not need a war, and the Abkhazian and Ossetian people do not need one either,” said Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili in April 2008. “There is a force that wants the defeat of the Georgian and Abkhazian and Ossetian people. I promise that I will not let this happen.”
But war could not be avoided and the current conflict leaves both South Ossetia and Abkhazia at a crossroads.
Many believe a return to the status quo would now be impossible.
Sergey Artyunov said: “Especially after the precedent created by Kosovo, the situation after all is the same, and Abkhazians and South Ossetians perhaps have even more rights to be recognised as separate nations and independent states by the world community than Kosovo.”
August 12, 2008, 9:36
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Chronicle of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict: Fact sheet
Related to country: Georgia
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In the Soviet times South Ossetia was an autonomous area within Georgia. In 1991 Georgia's first president, Zviad Gamsakhurdia, abolished the autonomy. The South Ossetian authorities rejected that decision and put up an armed resistance to the Georgians.
In January 1991 open warfare broke out between Georgia and South Ossetia claiming heavy casualties on both sides.
After the armed conflict, which lasted until 1992, Georgia lost control over the territory and peacekeeping forces were introduced into the conflict zone.
In 1994 talks to settle the conflict began. On May 16, 1996 a memorandum on security and confidence measures between the sides was signed in Moscow. The Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze and South Ossetian President Lyudvig Chibirov had several meetings to discuss ways to end the conflict. Russia was the mediator in the negotiation process. On December 23, 2000 a Russian-Georgian intergovernmental agreement was signed on interaction and economic reconstruction in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone and on the return of refugees. In April 2001 a referendum in South Ossetia introduced changes in the republic's constitution. Georgia considers the referendum to be illegal.
On December 22, 2001 the OSCE mission in Georgia and the European Commission signed an agreement on a 210,000 euro grant for measures to settle the Georgian-Ossetian conflict. The European Commission took an active part in collecting and destroying weapons in the conflict zone.
The 10th meeting of the parties' official delegations took place as part of the negotiations to settle the Georgian-Ossetian conflict outside The Hague on October 14-17, 2003. Taking part in the consultations were the representatives of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania, the Dutch co-chairs of the OSCE, the head of the OSCE mission to Georgia and the representatives of the European Commission. For the first time the parties failed to sign a final protocol due to substantive differences over its content.
On May 31, 2004 the commander of the Joint Peacekeeping Forces in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone, Svyatoslav Nabdzorov, declared the intention to liquidate the checkpoints the Georgian Interior Ministry had set up along the Gori-Tskhinvali highway ostensibly to stop the transportation of smuggled goods.
On June 1, 2004 the Russian Foreign Ministry made three statements on the situation in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone. The Russian ministry called on the Georgian authorities to recognize the danger of provocations in the region.
On June 2, 2004, during a meeting of the co-chairmen of the Joint Control Commission for the settlement of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict the Georgian and Ossetian representatives agreed not to use force or economic pressure with regard to each other.
On June 3, 2004 Georgia sent 20 flatcars with tanks and armored vehicles, several Grad rockets and 350 peacekeepers to the Tskhinvali area. Georgia had 150 troops armed with small arms near Tskhinvali. All in all, Georgia can have 500 servicemen with limited quantities of armor in the conflict zone, the country's Defense Ministry said.
On June 28, 2004 three members of the Georgian Security Ministry were detained on suspicion of committing acts of sabotage and terrorism in South Ossetia. Following the incident Georgia refused to attend the meeting of the Joint Control Commission due to be held in Moscow on June 30. On July 3 the representatives of the Georgian special services were released. Georgia declared that it would continue working with the commission.
On June 30, 2004 Russian peacekeepers were attacked by a Georgian Interior Ministry unit. The Russian Foreign Ministry called on Tbilisi "not to bring the situation in South Ossetia to a danger point." Moscow "has no doubt that the forcible seizure of military property was deliberately aimed at further aggravating the situation in South Ossetia and undermining the Russian-Georgian relations," the Russian Foreign Ministry said.
The situation in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone took a turn for the worse when an armed clash occurred in the Liakhvi Gorge in South Ossetia. Tbilisi reported that two Georgian peacekeepers were wounded and one kidnapped. On July 8-9 talks were held in Tskhinvali between Georgian Minister of State Giorgi Khaindrava and Deputy Commander of the Russian Ground Forces Lieutenant General Valery Yevnevich on the settlement of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict. The two sides discussed measures to stabilize the situation around South Ossetia.
On July 11 a meeting took place in Tskhinvali between the head of the unrecognized republic of South Ossetia Eduard Kokoity and the Russian Foreign Ministry's Special Ambassador Lev Mironov to discuss the preparation and holding of the meeting of the Joint Control Commission (JCC) on the settlement of the situation in South Ossetia. On the same day a working meeting took place in Tskhinvali between the co-chairmen of the JCC with the participation of the South Ossetian Special Ambassador Boris Chochiyev and a representative of the North Ossetian government, Teimuraz Kusov. The parties agreed to stop all provocative actions in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone. The conflicting parties pledged to stop the shooting and to lift the economic blockade.
On July 14, 2004 the first round of closed high-level talks in the JCC format was held in Moscow. The parties agreed that illegal armed units had to be withdrawn from the conflict zone. They confirmed the status of the peacekeepers in the conflict zone. The chairman of the Georgian National Security Council, Gela Bezhuashvili, said that the solution of the South Ossetian problem lay in the restoration of Georgia's territorial integrity.
On July 15, during the second round of the talks, the members of the JCC meeting signed a final document calling on the leaders of Tbilisi and Tskhinvali not to use force to resolve the conflict. The parties had to honor all the previous agreements. All the illegal armed units were to be disarmed and military vehicles had to be withdrawn from the conflict zone. A separate point in the protocol was devoted to humanitarian aid: the parties reaffirmed that such cargoes were to enjoy a favorable customs regime, as prescribed by the 1992 Dagomys agreements. The sides agreed that the JCC would be a permanent body based in Tskhinvali and that the following meeting would take place in Tbilisi several days later.
At a meeting in Tskhinvali on July 19, 2004 the representatives of Georgia, South Ossetia, North Ossetia and Russia agreed to set up a group of secretaries of the Georgian, South and North Ossetian parts of the JCC; and on July 21, the group and the counselor at the Russian Embassy in Georgia held their first meeting in Tbilisi. Georgia and South Ossetia reaffirmed their commitment to a peaceful settlement in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict and to preventing an escalation of tensions. A meeting of the representatives of co-chairs of the JCC in Tskhinvali on July 22 set the deadlines for the start of joint patrolling of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone by peacekeepers and OSCE observers and the routes of the patrols.
On September 30-October 2, 2004 a Joint Control Commission (JCC) meeting in Moscow discussed the prospects of resolving the conflict situation in South Ossetia, preventing future crises and economic rehabilitation of the conflict zone. A working group was set up to prepare decisions on the withdrawal of illegal units, dismantling of illegal checkpoints and the setting up of new checkpoints by peacekeepers.
On November 5, 2004 talks were held in Sochi between Georgian Prime Minister Zurab Zhvania and the head of South Ossetia, Eduard Kokoity. They were mediated by the Russian Foreign Ministry represented by First Deputy Foreign Minister Valery Loshchinin. The parties agreed on full demilitarization of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone. On November 13 Georgian Minister of State Giorgi Khaindrava and Special Affairs Minister of the Government of South Ossetia Boris Chochiyev agreed to liquidate the dugouts and other military structures. On November 15 the liquidation of military engineering structures began in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone.
On November 18-19, 2004 a meeting of the JCC in Vladikavkaz reviewed progress in the fulfillment of the Russian-brokered agreements between Georgian Prime Minister Zurab Zhvania and the president of the unrecognized Republic of South Ossetia, Eduard Kokoity, reached in Sochi on November 5. President of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania Alexander Dzasokhov, speaking at the JCC meeting, backed the proposal made by Zhvania and Kokoity to form a special economic zone that would include the Alagir District of North Ossetia, South Ossetia and the Gori District of Georgia.
On January 2005 Mikheil Saakashvili announced peace initiatives with regard to South Ossetia at a PACE meeting in Strasbourg. South Ossetia was offered broad autonomy as part of the single Georgian state. President George W. Bush in a telephone conversation on February 15 backed Saakashvili's initiatives. South Ossetian President Eduard Kokoity, commenting on Saakashvili's initiatives, said that "South Ossetia has long been an independent republic" and there could be no question of creating a common state with Georgia.
On March 11, 2005 Mikheil Saakashvili told a briefing that he would not wait long for Tskhinvali's response to his initiatives on the status of South Ossetia. He noted that some representatives of the Tskhinvali authorities welcomed the Georgian initiatives, but were unable to make a decision. He said the Tskhinvali region and Abkhazia would "never become part of an empire, even of a former empire." "These are our people, our territory called Georgia and it will never be called anything else," Saakashvili said.
On March 16-17, 2005 a meeting of the co-chairs of the Joint Control Commission discussed demilitarization of the conflict zone in the framework of the November 2004 Sochi agreements. Taking part in the meeting were the delegations of Russia, Georgia, North Ossetia-Alania and South Ossetia.
On June 20-21, 2005 an emergency meeting of the Joint Control Commission for the settlement of the Georgia-South Ossetia conflict was held in Moscow. The sides were supposed to sign a protocol on the cooperation of the law-enforcement bodies in the conflict zone. However, the protocol signed envisaged only the creation of a group to investigate the incidents in the conflict zone on May 29 and June 6 (the murder of four Ossetian and one Georgian servicemen and the disappearance of four Georgians).
On July 10, 2005 an international conference on the settlement of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict was held in Batumi. The representatives of South Ossetia boycotted the conference. During the conference Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili declared that Georgia was ready to grant South Ossetia full autonomy and amend the country's Constitution accordingly. He said that his plan of settlement of the conflict with South Ossetia was a phased one and would take considerable time to implement. He said the plan took into account all the wishes expressed at various stages by the South Ossetian representatives. The unrecognized republic of South Ossetia rejected Saakashvili's offer of autonomy within Georgia.
On October 11, 2005 the Georgian parliament adopted a resolution "On Peacekeeping Operations and the Situation in the Conflict Zones of Georgia." It required Russian peacekeepers, stationed in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone, to enforce both parties' compliance with their agreements before February 1, 2006. Otherwise, the Georgian parliament would initiate the procedure of withdrawal from the Dagomys Agreement of 1992 on February 15, 2006, and require Russian peacekeepers' to withdraw.
On December 8, 2005 the Joint Control Commission held an emergency meeting following the increase of tensions in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone. The commission analyzed the conflict and laid out measures to guarantee a peaceful Georgian-Ossetian settlement. Valery Kenyaikin, ambassador at large of the Russian Foreign Ministry and head of the Russian part of the commission, attended the meeting.
On February 15, 2006 the Georgian parliament adopted a statement envisaging cessation of the peacekeeping operation in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone. It qualified Russian action in the region as "armed intervention."
On May 31, 2006 Russian troops of the Joint Peacekeeping Force in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone rotated troops through the Rok Tunnel, which was out of Georgian control. Tbilisi regarded the Russian move as an official challenge. Georgian authorities alleged that Russia was introducing a greater contingent under the guise of rotation.
On July 16, 2006 Georgian police followed by car the Joint Control Commission leaders then stopped and detained them. They were searched, and their belongings were confiscated for several hours. The commission meeting had to be postponed for a day and a night.
On July 18, 2006 the Georgian parliament adopted a resolution on an immediate pullout of Russian peacekeepers from the country.
On September 27, 2006 Georgian secret services arrested four Russian military officers working in the GRVZ (Group of Russian Troops in South Caucasus) on espionage charges.
According to a statement issued by Marat Kulakhmetov, the commander of the Joint Peacekeeping Force in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone, which was carried by mass media, a Georgian task force attacked a vehicle of a North Ossetian peacekeeping battalion as it was leaving the village of Avnevi on September 29, 2006. Sergeant Kudziyev, who was in the vehicle, was beaten.
On November 12, 2006 a referendum on independence was held in South Ossetia alongside the presidential elections.
On August 7 Georgia accused Russia of an air attack, claiming two Su-25 jets with Russian markings intruded into Georgian airspace and fired missiles at a radar station near Gori. The incident prompted the cancellation of a Tbilisi meeting of the Joint Control Commission for Georgian-Ossetian Conflict Resolution (JCC) slated for August 9-10. Tensions surged in the conflict zone.
On August 29 Georgian authorities arrested and convicted two servicemen from the North-Ossetian peacekeeping battalion, Tariel Khachirov and Vitaly Valiyev. They were detained in a Georgian prison until February 2008, in violation of international law and the existing agreements on resolution of the Georgian-Ossetian conflict. Neither representatives of the Joint Peacekeeping Force command nor officials from the Russian Embassy in Tbilisi were allowed to see them; they were also denied the right to use defense attorneys at court hearings.
The resumption of the negotiating process by the Joint Control Commission for Georgian-Ossetian Conflict Resolution (JCC) after a twelve-month break did not bring any progress. Georgia and South Ossetia failed to adjust their positions and adopt a joint statement during the talks held on October 23-24, 2007 at the OSCE premises in Tbilisi.
On March 31, 2008 a South Ossetian police post near the village of Okona in the Znaur District was attacked by a group armed with guns and grenade launchers. Military observers from the Joint Peacekeeping Force and the OSCE mission established that the shots were fired from an area controlled by Georgia. Two days before the shooting, Georgian police task force and security officers dressed as civilians had been seen in the vicinity.
On April 2 another armed group fired automatic weapons at a South Ossetian Defense Ministry checkpoint near the village of Andzi-si. The servicemen at the checkpoint did not return fire.
A total of 56 incidents of ceasefire violation by Georgian forces were registered by the Joint Peacekeeping Force in April 2008. Most of them involved random shooting with the purpose of fueling tension in the region. Georgian Interior Minister Vano Merabishvili, commenting on the explosion of an anti-personnel mine that injured a local police officer near the village of Kheiti, accused Russian peacekeepers of planting the mine. Later he spoke on Georgia's Alania TV Channel accusing the South Ossetian government of issuing 1,500 fake Russian passports to local residents.
On May 14 President of South Ossetia Eduard Kokoity said the Georgian special services were planning a terrorist attack in the territory of the self-proclaimed republic against Georgians and Georgian peacekeepers.
On May 15 Captain Vladimir Ivanov, an aide to the Joint Peacekeeping Force commander for contacts with the media, announced a planned rotation of the peacekeeping contingent in South Ossetia. Georgian media then spread information about an alleged expansion of the Russian peacekeeping contingent in the conflict zone, quoting Georgia's foreign minister. A routine rotation was described as a "provocation" and a "reckless enterprise."
On May 16 a bomb exploded on a roadside 200 meters from the Georgian village of Ergneti in the conflict zone. No one was hurt. Another bomb was detonated on the road between the Georgian villages of Eredvi and Ditsi. A Georgian Interior Ministry car was hit, injuring one Georgian special task force officer. A third explosion occurred on the same day in the vicinity of the village of Nikozi, where a local resident was injured by a mine in a field.
On July 3 as Dmitry Sanakoyev, head of the ‘alternative' Georgian-backed government of South Ossetia, was driving across the republic to Batumi to attend an international conference, his car was struck by a mine and fired at from the direction of local villages. Sanakoyev's bodyguards returned fire. The shooting went on for several minutes. Three of the guards were severely injured. Sanakoyev himself was unscathed. South Ossetian Interior Minister Mikhail Mindzayev said that the attack on Sanakoyev was orchestrated by Georgia to provide a pretext for invading the self-proclaimed republic.
In the early hours of July 4, 2008 Georgian forces used mortars, grenade launchers and guns to fire at Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, and the villages of Ubiat and Dmenis. One person was killed and three wounded. Georgian officials claimed that South Ossetia started the shooting and Georgia was forced to fire back in self-defense.
On July 7 the police in Russia's Southern Federal District detained four military men from the Georgian Defense Ministry in the village of Okon, South Ossetia's Znaur District. Officials of the breakaway region of South Ossetia claimed the detained men were pursuing intelligence activities in the Tskhinvali region. Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili considered the detainment a hostage situation. On July 8, the detainees were released.
On July 9, Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement concerning the aggravated situation in the Georgian-Abkhazian and Georgian-Ossetian conflict zones, which said that "For the past several days, the situation in the Georgian-Abkhazian and Georgian-South Ossetian conflict zones has intensified. The city of Tskhinvali has been shelled by the Georgian army, with victims registered among civilians. Fighters and unmanned aircraft of the Georgian Air Force have repeatedly violated the conflict territorial air zones. In a terrorist attack, a South Ossetian police officer was killed. Georgian military set up a post at a strategic site near the village of Sarabuki. Additional military equipment was moved from Georgia into the conflict zone without any coordination with the Joint Peacekeeping Forces, which was registered by military observers including by the OSCE mission in Georgia. These actions point to an open and planned aggression against South Ossetia, which is the internationally recognized side in settling the conflict."
On August 1 and 2, the tension in the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict zone was aggravated due to a massive shelling of Tskhinvali's residential districts, which led to numerous deaths among civilians, with six South Ossetians killed and 15 wounded. Georgia claimed this was a response to South Ossetia's gunfire on Georgia's territory. South Ossetia began evacuating the region's residents to North Ossetia, with 2,500 people leaving their homes during the two days after the shelling.
On August 6, South Ossetian President Eduard Kokoity said he would take "the toughest measures" toward "militants firing at the villages." Previously, the breakaway region's Defense Ministry reported that the Georgian side started sniper fire at the South Ossetian villages of Mugut and Didmukha in the Znaur District at around 12:00 p.m. According to South Ossetian sources, the Georgian special forces attempted to occupy Nul Height to gain control over the Znaur road and the South Ossetian villages located along the road. In the afternoon, it was reported that an aggressive battle was taking place at the village of Nul.
Irina Gagloyeva, head of South Ossetia's Committee for Information and the Press, told RIA Novosti that South Ossetian units had forced the Georgian military units out of Nul Height.
Georgia's Interior Ministry, however, denied the reports.
The same day, the special envoy of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Yury Popov, said direct Georgian-South Ossetian talks with Russian mediators were offered in the Joint Peacekeeping Forces' headquarters for August 7. However, Tskhinvali refused the offer.
On August 7 Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, in his national TV address to Georgia and to the Tskhinvali region, said he was ready for any negotiations to settle the conflict with South Ossetia. He suggested Russia become a guarantor of South Ossetia's autonomy within Georgia.
According to the South Ossetian Interior Ministry, on August 7 Georgia started ground fire and shelling of the South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali from the village of Nikozi. Then, according to Tskhinvali, the shelling and shooting at the South Ossetian village of Khetagurovo was started from the Georgian village of Avnevi. About 10 people were killed and another 50 received various wounds. The Georgian media, however, reported that the South Ossetian side had been shelling the Georgian villages of Avnevi and Nuli for three hours. According to the information of the Joint Peacekeeping Forces in the conflict zone, it was the Georgian side that started firing first. Also, there were reports that Russian peacekeepers were fired on.
On August 8 Georgia started military operations in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone.
15:04 | 13/ 08/ 2008
The article was written using information of RIA Novosti news agency and open sources
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